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>> i am melissa francis. >> i am lori rothman. so much for progress on the fiscal cliff talks. at least for today. progress getting a fever pitch as john boehner says white house needs to get serious. senate majority leader harry reid says he is waiting for a serious offer from republicans. so there you can see the stock market slightly higher, reacting to every last word coming out of capitol hill. now the dow was higher, but off of the best levels of the session as we make progress. melissa arizona is the latest state to refuse the exchange. we will bring on judge andrew napolitano to talk about this one. lori: "time" magazine announcing it candidate for person of the year. wait until you hear who the candidates are. we will handicap the list with lou dobbs. melissa stocks as we do every 15 minutes. nicole petallides standing by. stocks are losing sseam as house speaker john boehner took the podium although they have recovered a bit. nicole: is difficult to monitor which way and guess which way the market will go as each headline process crosses, we'reg the market being star
in on these fiscal cliff talks. here is "the new york times" -- in the "financial times" this morning -- roger altman writing today in "the financial times." president obama will be meeting with several governors today at the white house to talk about the fiscal cliff. they will be meeting this morning around 10:00 a.m. eastern time, and then the governors are slated to hold a news conference at around 11:30 a.m. eastern time. go to our website for more details. washington insiders tackle fiscal cliff policy solutions. the group will hold a roundtable discussion today on the importance of reform to address the nation's debt and deficit spending this event takes place this morning around 8:30 a.m. eastern time. go to our website for all our coverage of the fiscal cliff talks. we have a web site set up so you can follow along on our special page for these fiscal cliff talks. back to your phone calls. good morning, doris. caller: good morning. the plan that the republicans offered, this is just the romney-ryan plan that the american voters said no to. other than destroying our earned benefit, i do not c
of these fiscal cliff talks that are causing such volatility in the market here? >> well, bill, as you said, we are long-term investors. we really don't find ourselves wanting to move things around that much. >> you're not playing these swings here? you don't buy on dips? >> we're not playing the dips and selling the volleys. >> are you expecting that we will be able to get into this market as better prices at lower prices at some point before year end? >> that would be a very short-term question. i don't know the answer to it. >> and you're not a short-term guy. >> eric, what about you? how are you allocating capital these days? >> you know, we're allocating capital much the same way we have been doing for the last few months, which is thinking, again, sort of long term like was just said. you can do things around the fringes, but they have to be, you know, considered a small move rather than something aggressive. we still don't have enough answers to know what the ultimate outcome is going to be. >> mark, what about you? you know, we tend to oversimplify. right now the feeling is resolution t
the fiscal cliff. that's the hill newspaper. here's politico this morning, inside the talk, fiscal cliff deal emerging is what some write this morning. and that's from politico this morning. first call up on our question this morning, g.o.p. says address the spending problem and in silver spring, maryland, democrat, good morning anne. caller: yes, well i would like the g.o.p. to be a little more specific because all of them who signed the pledge they want to slink government. i listen to c-span. they're so upset about ben gauzey, which they should be upset about, they don't take into account that the state department has a shoestring budget. people are very upset about the compounding, but the f.d.a. operates on a shoestring budget because they have been shrinking government. host: so anne, do you see room for cut? caller: yes, i see room for budget cuts in the defense department. i'm a senior citizen facing retirement, and i really do believe in some means testing for social security. it's an insurance program. and there are people, you're just like with your health insurance, if you're real
irrespective of any fiscal cliff talk. this is all thanks to obamacare? >> yeah, that's exactly right, megyn. there was a surtax in the health care law, supposedly to pay for medicare, but they raised it -- they raided the money out of medicare before it even arrived to pay for the new obamacare spending. it's 0.9% additional medicare tax on wages of high income earners, and it is 3.8% on all unearned income, so capital gains, dividends, rental income, interest, any other unearned income has this new 3.8% surtax, and that's on top of whatever might happen in these fiscal cliff talks. megyn: so that is happening. if you make $200,000 as an individual or 250 as a family, it's happening as of january 1. >> well, looks that way. my parsing of speaker boehner's offer in the fiscal cliff talks is that this is going to happen no matter what. they talked about holding the line -- megyn: no, wait, wait, wait, let me interrupt because i just don't want to confuse the two, because all the taxes are confusing. i'm saying this surtax, this .9 income tax surtax, and then this 3.8% surtax on nearly all cap
.b.r." >> susie: the fiscal cliff talks are going nowhere. that's the word from john boehner today. the house speaker characterized the negotiations to avoid huge tax increases and spending cuts at a stalemate. the race to solve the fiscal cliff triggered another round of dramatic sound bites from republicans and president obama. darren gersh has the latest. >> reporter: the president is still pushing to wrap up a deal on the fiscal cliff before christmas and just in case anyone missed that point, he visited a toy factory to urge congress to avoid raising taxes on the middle class. >> that's sort of like the lump of coal you get for christmas. that's a scrooge christmas. a typical middle-class family of four would see their income taxes go up by about $2,200. >> reporter: t psidents oposg to raise taxesy $1.6 trillion, while cutting spending by $400 billion. on top of that, mr. obama asked for $50 billion more for infrastructure spending and $140 billion to extend unemployment insurance benefits and the payroll tax cut. republicans literally laughed it off. >> they want... they want to have t
the details of the president's opening gambit in the fiscal cliff talk. he wants a $1.6rillion tax increase, 50 billion and stimulus spending. and the white house has the ability to raise the debt ceiling without congressional approval. a very big deal for folks there. today, the president is out there, trying to drum up support among the public. not in washington or with congress or the senate. here is what he had to say. >> it is not acceptable to me, and i do not think it is acceptable to you for a handful of republicans in congress will middle-class tax cuts hostage simply because they don't want tax rates on upper income folks go up. gerri: it sounds like the same old, same old. the president has been making the sa comments again. is this any way to sell a plan? >> there really is not. the president is not being serious about this. the fact that the president is out there campaigning on this rather than negotiating, it means that those that are negotiating, such as secretary geithner, they probably don't feel bound by what the president is saying. th is the fit gammons and certainly no
talking about every morning here since the election. fiscal cliff, big, big issue. there are now, it seems, growing numbers of people on both the right and the left who would like to see us just go over that fiscal cliff. how big of a problem would that be? >> that would be a big problem. i actually still believe that those -- the democrats, the administration, republicans in the final analysis don't want to see that happen. they do understand that not only would that present a problem in the near term as we went over the cliff at the end of the year, but we still then have the whole debt ceiling fight that would transpire shortly into the new year. the issue isn't simply the negative result of going over the cliff, but it's also that business, consumers, everybody continues to hold back on the uncertainty. and we believe the economy is pretty well positioned potentially in 2013 if we can put this behind us. so i think a lot of what's going on is what you would expect to see in this negotiation, very public negotiation, which is not the best way to do it. i think at some point, the preside
values of the year. this is the pursuit of perfection. >>> fiscal cliff talks are set to drag on as republican budget proposals are dismissed by the white house and top democrats. banking union talks take center stage today in brussels about finance ministers trying to find a deal for a single supervisory body. and australia central bank cuts interest rates to match their lowest level since the financial crisis. we'll talk airlines later. ahead of that, british airways say it's offering to imbalance the crew numbers. we'll keep our eyes on that. delta possibly bidding for a stake in injury gone atlantic. meanwhile there's other global news of significance. it is official, new royal highness on the way. after week of speculation, it's confirmed they're expecting their first baby. there are a number of bits of flash photography. the duchess is being treated in a central london hospital for severe morning sickness. book makers have been inundated with bets on what the new prince or princess might be called. joining us for more, michelle kozinski. good to see you. give us a sense
for word. but first this, the fiscal cliff, the talks hit a huge road bump. zingers and verbal jabs are flying while actual talks are at a stand still. president obama says republicans must agree to preserve a middle class tax cut as first part of any deal. and he linked republicans to scrooge today while touring a pennsylvania toy factory. listen. >> if congress does nothing, every family in america will see their income taxes automatically go up on january 1st. every family, everybody here, you'll see your taxes go up on january 1st. i mean, i'm assuming that doesn't sound too good to you. that is sort of like the lump of coal you get for christmas. that's a scrooge christmas. >> that's pretty scroogy, right? president obama's proposal calls for $1.6 trillion in new tax revenue. $50 billion for new stimulus spending. and about $400 billion in entitlement cuts. republicans say, the president's proposal's nothing but a political stunt. here is boehner. >> the white house spends three weeks trying to develop a proposal and they send one up here that calls for $1.6 trillion in new tax
in preparation or all been wary about the fiscal cliff, let's see where we are, talking about a dollar jumping, positive for the weekend all up arrows and a great day on wall street after yesterday when tim geithner was sounded more optimistic and we continued that trend to the upside today but a short time ago we saw john boehner talking and sounding less optimistic and somewhat pessimistic. when you don't see clarity and you don't have bipartisan agreement you see the markets do a reversal and that is what you see on this injured they chart with the s&p 500 still holding the 1400 mark to the key psychological level but this shows how temperamental this market is and we have seen so many companies beating up their dividend payout in order to beat taxes that are likely to go up next year so there's a lot of maneuvering going on. dagen: cheryl: market analyst quoting john boehner unit is about washington. thank you very much. it is a busy day in washington and new york is watching, tim geithner is meeting with congressional leaders in an effort to make headway on a fiscal cliff deal. peter barn
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're going to have a look at republicans and the fiscal cliff negotiations with radio talk-show host and columnist armstong williams. that is coming up next as we continue the "washington journal." ♪ >> why a writers institute? i think it is very important within the culture. we are a culture of words, of voices. words are key to our imagination, our capacity to envision things. we ourselves are not completely tied to print on the page. but i think that there is no other art form so readily accessible other than perhaps -- but it is something -- there is something in literature that captures the humans. . >> this weekend, we look behind the scenes at the history and literary life of new york's capital city, albany, on c-span to and it c-span3. span3.c- [bell rings] >> this weekend on c-span3, follow harry truman's eldest grandson to hiroshima. >> everybody has their own view of what happened. survivalant to argue or about the history. i think we are past that. my goal for behing here is to honor the dead nand listen to the living and do what i can to ensure this does not happen aga
that we are now 28 days frrm going over the fiscal cliff with no talks taking place between either side and more troubling, no talks scheduled between the president and house speaker. we take all of this up here tonight with former special assistant to president george w. bush, veteran democratic politicos strategist and republican pollster. president obama issued a warning to syrian leader declaring there will be consequences if syria uses chemical weapons on its own people. the president's steered clear of defining those consequences. egis political crisis is widening cajon. a general strike to protest the presence unrestricted new powers. in this country's hospitals that deadly new bacteria that is more than just drug-resistant, it is draw prevent spreading. just how high is that this book of? we begin tonight with the fiscal clef which produced more far spent progress rejecting the speaker of the house claim that no progress is being made >> the house speaker said on fox news sunday right now i would say we are nowhere in terms of the fiscal cliff negotiations. does the president ag
we're talking about a possible fiscal cliff. we're not off the cliff. >> right. >> if it's january 2nd or 3rd and the stock market is going down by a couple thousand points around the world. the japanese markets, european countries, countries in europe which are precarious are in bigger trouble. the whole thing is going wacky, one guy is going to be standing in the middle of the storm, not grover norquist or some republican, but the president of the united states who has to weather the storm and point the finger across the aisle to someone nobody else in the world knows and says, speaker boehner, would you solve this problem? i'm not sure -- that's why i'm against you on this one. i think times have changed. >> economically the biggest risk is the sequestration. it's not the tax cuts going into effect. and -- >> you mean the millions of dollars -- >> the cuts that will be forced through in the next two years. that's a much bigger risk to the economy. >> therefore? >> therefore, if the president lets this thing -- look, the markets have already priced this in. >> i hear the opposite.
another meeting. today president obama meeting with governors on the fiscal cliff talks so what is really going on behind the scenes? well, i will tell you what, we'll ask governor gary herbert of utah. he actually met with the president so we'll get a first-hand account. tracy: yeah, that will be interesting. is red tape standing in the way of a housing recovery? will foreclosures bog down in court proceedings? our very own judge napolitano is here to give us the scoop on that. ashley: plus, say it ain't so. the bubbly is losing its physician. the champagne industry suffering from a hangover from europe's economic woes. there hasn't been a lot of celebrating across the pond lately. we'll have more. tracy: i wonder if europe is drinking wine instead? ashley: they're drinking something. they will never give that up. tracy: they do it in church, heck. all right, top of the hour, time for stocks as we do every 15 minutes. we head down to nicole petallides on the floor of the new york stock exchange. girl, we are, as ashley said, drifting and it is all because of washington, isn't it? >> ther
are our troops dying and yet we just seem to go on and on talking about the fiscal cliff? well, i know that's important. mr. speaker, it is time for congress to realize that we are having young men and women to die in afghanistan for a failed policy that will not change one thing. mr. speaker, before closing, i make reference to this poster of a young american in a casket being carried by his colleagues to be buried. please, american people, put pressure on congress to bring our troops home now and not wait until december, 2014. i ask god to please bless our men and women in uniform, to please bless the loved ones who lost those in iraq and afghanistan. please, god, help get our troops home now and not later. i yield back. the speaker pro tempore: the chair recognizing the gentleman from oregon, mr. blumenauer, for five minutes. mr. blumenauer: mr. speaker, mitt romney weathered a storm of criticism late in the campaign after hurricane sandy for his earlier comments about privatizing fema and turning responsibility back to state and local governments. but during an era of fiscal restra
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the looming fiscal cliff. talked about business concerns as you head into the end of the year and even what to expect in 2014. bank of america has 55 million customers here in america. they represent one out of every two households. so moynihan has a very good idea about what consumers are doing and if they spending less because of the fiscal cliff. here's what he had to say. >> i'm more about business behavior than consumer behavior. people continue to spend, housing is a little better. all the things that affect stock market are in decent shape. the question was will everything going on cause them on slow down again. >> what are you you see rg businesses right now? >> almost a year and a halving a go, businesses getting concerned about the nature of the dialogue about the fiscal situation? washington and in europe and the issues that had to be dealt with long term and how it affects near term business in terms of what would be accelerated appreciation for investment in business. what will be the final demand. so the uncertainty factor started weighing in and caused everybody to be much mo
on negotiations breaks down the current fiscal cliff talks. is there a method behind what appears to be political madness? in advance of friday's jobs report, a surprising new look about what kind of companies are actually creating new jobs in this economy? we'll have some of the best job creators next hour. and, three things you need to understand about the new facebook messaging announcement. join us on "power." back to scott. >>> we'll see you in about 15 minutes. sometimes it's tough to buy the losers and sell the winners. you know that. let's play a little hold them or fold them, what stocks have made big moves of late. marathon petroleum up more than 78% year to date. joe, hold them or fold them? >> absolutely hold them. you're talking about a mid continent refiner here. secular momentum, clearly a strategy here like rg3 with your redskins, the game has changed and it's changed for years. >> all right. dish network, the stock five-year high, 45% move this year. hold them, fold them? >> i'm folding. i like the cable. not just because of comcast, but i like the cable sector better. very, very
. but again only on news of setbacks to the fiscal cliff talks. we're not going to go in and buy anything these days. you'll get some representative congressman, senator come on say you stupid idiot. you bought stock and i'm talking on a microphone. i'm sending the stock market down because there's no progress. we have not one but two huge analyst days next week. only one an opportunity to buy. starbucks is coming to town on wednesday. you better get ready for one terrific show as the one and only howard schultz i believe will tell you that business is smoking in so many places in china to the united states and that tebana will be the next generation starbucks as soon as the merger is completed. the next day yum brands. it's coming to town. that company will have some explaining to do. i will have more on what yums needs to tell us. the sting of the earnings shortfall last night will still be with us no matter how good kentucky fried chicken might taste. also we hear from lulu lem athletics. i got a situation for how to trade this wild stock. wait until it looks like it blew up. then buy
parties taking to the airwaves this weekend, trying to blame each other over the fiscal cliff talk. this is all happening less than a month until accommodation of spending cuts and tax hikes kicks in. right now, it seems like both sides are moving further apart from the deal. here is house speaker john boehner and treasury secretary timothy geithner. >> we are flabbergasted. we have seven weeks between election day in the end of the year. three of those weeks have been wasted. >> we are not going to extend an extension of the tax rates. we think they need to go back to those levels. if you don't do that, you have to ask yourself, whose taxes are we going to raise? were we going to find the money bring a balanced plan in place? jenna: senator lindsey graham, a republican known for reaching across the aisle, not looking at this with a great deal of optimism. >> i think we're going over the fiscal cliff. it's pretty clear that they have made this happen. they are not saving social security and medicare and medicaid from imminent bankruptcy. jenna: james is live in washington with more
over the fiscal cliff talks. now republicans and democrats can't even agree on where things stand. >> no substantive progress has been made in the talks. >> and you know there is progress. >> treasury secretary tim geithner sat down with bipartisan congressional leaders to keep pushing for a deal. a top boehner aide said the plan geithner presented is, quote, completely unrealistic. and a top democratic aide said republicans have taken to screaming at them. if no action is taken by december 31st, 650 billion in cuts to the pentagon and domestic programs and tax increases automatically go into effect. after the meeting, the finger-pointing came quickly. republicans say democrats aren't bringing to the table a plan that include significant cuts to medicare and entitlement programs. >> revenue was only on the table. if they were serious. spending cuts. >> the white house drew its own line in the sand and said tax rates must go up on the top earners, but -- >> the middle-class tax cut should be made permanent. >> president obama stayed out of the fiscal cliff discussions and sat down
the fiscal cliff, all of the talk of the talk shows on sunday and of all of the political websites and newsletters, including the national journal hotline, one of my favorite reads, editor in chief reed wilson joining us. good to have you back caller: hi, bill. >> bill: fiscal cliff, 29 or 30 days ago left today? it's pretty simple to me it seems to me if they scheduled a vote in the house of representatives on the tax cut, continuing tax cut for 98% of americans, it would probably pass. don't you think? >> i am not entirely certain about that. i mean the -- i think the democrats have started coming around on their messaging a little bit. at the beginning of this, they were talking about, president obama, too, were talking about extending tax breaks for 98% of americans, 97% of small businesses. >> that's not true. the tax breaks for any -- for income under $250,000 extends to 100% of americans. everybody gets it. >> the president said that friday in pennsylvania. >> obama had started to talk about how everybody would get these tax breaks with the
cliff and the talks are at a stand still for president obama portrage republicans scrooges and the republicans are waiting for a serious proposal. pat buchanan wants the gop to stand firm with no new taxings. >> ditching the business tax for a national sales tax. it is spurring growth and putting people to work there. wayne would it work here? >> it is a sad day to think that we have to do something the communist china is doing . it worked very well and they have expand today to other provinces in china and it is working very, very well. yes. >> national sales tax does that work here, johnathon? >> it would. it is it fair and treats everyonely and easy to understand and more importantly taxes consumption and not production. the only thing i like about communist china is the chicken but the corporate next tax must go and think of how much more wealth and jobs we would have if it add more to the profits every year. >> julian, what do you make of >> the reason a national sales tax is good it is harder to cheat on and the reason it is it bad. economy growing at 2.4 percent. it
. headline driven. but a good session on the back of that optimism for fiscal cliff talk. all except this glaring spot of red. shanghai composite finishing lower for yet another session. it keeps falling further and further. doesn't seem that there is anything that policymakers or investors can do to lift sentiment in this market. different story in the hang seng, rebounding up about 1%. so a tale of two very different markets. hang seng up nearly 20 percent year to date. if you're playing china in both markets, very, very different views. the kospi is up 1.2%. asx 200 up 0.7%. major miners in focus. bhp and ceo coming out with comments that we'll talk about later. we have the japanese market continuing their rally. it's been quite the rally over the last few week. topex you might want to watch. goldman sachs year's target up by some 8%. there is still up side of about 20%. you could see some gains if they are correct. but the knee he kay 225 recouping losses from yesterday to continue on that rally. up 1%. sharp was in focus today on talks that they may be signing some investment de
this fiscal cliff and move on. connell: we probably would be talking a lot more about china and the transition of power and how president obama is supposed to do without. when you say there are economy is not doing that great, does that mean it is in jeopardy of a tough all, or it will hang in there? >> i think it will hang in there. china, i think, will grow. reasonably, i have seen some analysts come out and be pretty bullish. their economy, the outlook is willing not that bright. although, they probably will not fall hard. china is sort of setting their status quo. i think the u.s., again, back to the u.s., they have to get their act together. connell: a few days after the end of the year. that is just silly, if you think about it. if we all know the answers, why do we have to wait until the new year. thank you very much. good to see you. dagen: as the nation waits on washington, what is really going on behind the scenes? brett fair on the timeline for a deal in d.c. the mississippi river will always have its own way. no engineering skill can persuade it to do otherwise. the river is doing
let's talk about the fiscal cliff. to use the words of john boehner, i'm flabbergasted. >> nowhere period. we're nowhere. i'm flabbergasted. he can't be serious. i'm serious about our debt. >> cenk: i can't wait to get serious on john bainer when we come back. and later in the program the elbow of the day who 12 on? guess at @tytoncurrent. this corruption based on corruption based on corruption. >>i think that's an understatement, eliot. u>> i'm not prone tot. understatement, so explain to me why that is. i think the mob learned from wall st., not vice versa. [ male announcer ] lifts to clear obstacles. ♪ ♪ lowers to cut drag. rises to every challenge. the class exclusive air suspension in the new 2013 ram 1500. engineered to move heaven and earth. guts. glory. ram. (vo) now, it's your turn. (vo) connect with the young turks with cenk uygur. >> it's go time. >> cenk: some had hopes that in a second term president obama would be more progressive because he wouldn't have to face re-election. i thought that was very unlikely. color me surprised. because it turns out pre
:30 a.m. >> we are thrilled to have senator durbin to talk about his views on the fiscal cliff, and the framework. i think as we engage in this debate i just want to let a few things that are critical. as washington becomes obsessed with this issue. first and foremost, i think it will have consequences and that cap we have argued that the issues that are really framing the fiscal debate and fiscal cliff are ones that were actually dictated in the election context. the president didn't have one set of complications, and a second set now. really there was a thread going through the debates as was happening to add that thread was about having a balanced plan that addressed america's fiscal challenges. acknowledged there were serious fiscal challenges that we do need long-term, deficit reduction. that's important for america's credibility, and it's important for america's economy and economic growth. that plan has to be balanced and that means significant revenues, and it has to go around. typically that means the wealthy and well off have to pay their fair share as well. again, th
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. always talking about the fiscal cliff. i will say good-bye. no fiscal cliff. thank you, gary. pressure. melissa: the problem with online shopping used to be you had to wait in order to get what you ordered but not anymore. retailers are racing to keep up with the new trend of instant gratification shopping with same die delivery. amazon started it. now ebay, google even wal-mart are doing it. they battle who can do it faster and cheapest they only offer same day delivery in selected cities using courier companies like ups -pthe problem with economics of ame day delivery are challenging. analysts estimate the services are money-losers at least for now. kind of makes sense. almost like the airlines of the ones one guy does something everybody else has to do it to compete. lori: nuclear arms race. if you disarmed you would be on equal playing field. melissa: we get used to it and spoiled. to a certain extent you don't know somebody is charging more for the product but you want it that same day. like free same day shipping. >> free shipping with holiday gifts ii melissa: love it. lori: yo
on fiscal cliff talks. i think obama will be speaking at some point today. and so that's definitely what traders have been focused on. but still while we are holding these bid levels, really kind of chop type trade and not a lot of energy, not a lot of yiks for the most part. >> what about the slew of special difference sends we've be dividends we've been seeing? >> i think that's been encouraging for the most part. but one thing i just heard about the dividends from microsoft and oracle, but i heard pc sales for microsoft were off like 20 some% year to year. so while they came out with the windows 8 launch into the holidays, really it's kind of backfired for the most part and there hasn't been a lot of major response to that relative to some of the other apple type releases that we've seen. and again it's just faltering if you will. but i think the positive energy if you will certainly contributed as well as the economic data this terms of contributing to the up side activity. but it's a bit of a grind to the up side. again, not these -- other than wednesday, not these really huge moves
. the problem is going to be not just the fiscal cliff, but also if it goes down the way and was talking about we're going to have a middle-class taxes go up in sequestration as well. disco cliff? >> if congress does nothing every family in america will see their income taxes automatically go up on january 1st. every family. everybody here will see taxes go up. i'm assuming that doesn't sound too good to you. it's sort of like a lump of coal you get for christmas. the scrooge christmas. lou: most people don't even know where the real tax hikes will be coming from. we will fix that in tonight's "chalk talk." massive defense budget cuts not even part of the discussion so far about the fiscal cliff. those cuts are set to go into affect in three weeks. admiral james lyons joins us in just moments. ♪ lou: welcome back. we are talking about the disco cliff. we are going to turn to advance in the middle east and the united nations this week. judy miller, joe trip be, and rollins. i wanted just go back to the fiscal cliff just for a second. that is, the republican messaging, if you will. they have a
not talk about but it is something that's on the radar is that, as the fiscal cliff fears rise, interest rates fall on the 10-year. so the effect the fed would have from easing is already in -- already happening as a market reaction. >> steve, thank you. >>> when jeff kilburg is not fired up about the irish he is fired up about what mr. dudley said today. why? >> absolutely. he came out with very dovish comments. he lass a permanent vote and he is quite the confidant of ben bernanke. so he flat-out gave a wink-wink, there's something big coming in less than two weeks. >> he's been a dove for a long time though. no change but just to hear it articulated gives you some sense of -- >> it does. this could be a one-two punch. if the fomc comes out with additional measures, subsequent week later, all of a sudden they have the fiscal cliff resolution, bam, we could see a test of the 1,460 of the s&p. is there story in "the journal" about more action possible out of the fed. >>> taking a look at shares of advance auto parts reportedly the auto parts retailer put itself out for auction but the bi
% today. connell: our big question today, should the fiscal cliff talks be televised so we can see the whole thing? neil cavuto is coming in. grover norquist made this suggestion over the weekend. we are not sure whether it is a good idea. lori: it is televised enough. the dow off 23. flirting with 13,000. verisign, green mountain coffee, seeing green. we will be back right after this. ♪ can i help you? i heard you guys can ship ground for less thn e ups store. that's right. i've learned the only way to ge a holiday deal is to camp out. you know we've been open all night. is this a trick to get my spot? [ male announcer ] break from the holiday stress. save on ound shipping at fedex office. lori: put it on tv. grover norquist saying the president should go into a room with c-span cameras present. connell: neil cavuto joins us now. what do you think of this idea of putting it on television? neil: i do not think it is a good idea. this would really heighten it a little more. i think grover's point about how they should be held accountable and everyone should see how they come to th
and the fiscal cliff. everyone talks about taxes and what is going to happen with the fiscal cliff. there has been $1500 gone to increase oil prices. you can get them that tax cut today if you invested in our report. everybody talks about entitlements. high oil prices make the social security trust insolvent five years sooner than they would if he did not have high oil prices. america needs jobs and growth. following the recommendations in our report will lead to both of those. it would be good for american business. >> i will start with senator alexander. tell me about energy policy and where it fits in with the fiscal cliff. what we will spend money on and how we were tightened our belts. >> the major place it fits is the right policy would create an environment which would produce a lot more revenue. that would help to reduce the debt. the federal government doesn't spend much money on energy. energy research is about $6 billion a year. i would like to see it doubled. this report is a blueprint for independence and i think it is the right blueprint. we are not in a position to be held host
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